ÿþ --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: -22996307 Channel Name: Private Chat (alone) Listener: TheBlueFox Session started: 2011.07.01 04:39:43 --------------------------------------------------------------- ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:39:50 ] Shadow Shock > hey ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:40:14 ] TheBlueFox > so, i don't know exactly what you lot told wiseoak, but from what i've heard, it isn't exactly true ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:40:29 ] TheBlueFox > trip has not been trying to contact me...ever ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:40:38 ] TheBlueFox > and we're not behind on payments...its due today ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:41:05 ] Shadow Shock > i told him i talked to you about a week ago about rent, and you just said yeah, kind of blew me off ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:41:26 ] Shadow Shock > u never said you wanted to stay in cby or not ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:41:31 ] TheBlueFox > you told me it was due today...which means i'm to pay it sometime today ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:41:40 ] TheBlueFox > its not that complicated... ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:42:04 ] Shadow Shock > actually i told you i had to pay rent on the 1st and i needed yours before then ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:42:58 ] Shadow Shock > thats all i had to do with it, from what i heard trip and wiseoak have been talking ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:43:33 ] TheBlueFox > don't remember you saying that it was due before then...at least you didn't mention it last time ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:43:45 ] TheBlueFox > ÿþ[ 2011.06.27 23:26:57 ] Angelic Shock > sorry i was on shadowÿþ[ 2011.06.27 23:29:58 ] Angelic Shock > its almost the first, we need to pay rent ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:43:50 ] TheBlueFox > ÿþ[ 2011.06.27 23:34:12 ] TheBlueFox > yeah, haven't forgottenÿþ[ 2011.06.27 23:36:57 ] Angelic Shock > ok thanks, its still 275 mil every two weeks ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:44:31 ] Shadow Shock > yup, i was expecting your half then ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:45:12 ] TheBlueFox > well, when something is due on a day, you normally pay it on that day, so i should still have time...can't expect me to pay it at 00:01 as i wasn't even home ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:45:44 ] TheBlueFox > i mentioned on the 19th that i planned on staying too ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:45:51 ] Shadow Shock > not sure what to tell you, trip and wise been talking, and from what im hearing, there going to ask you guys to merge or leave ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:46:15 ] Shadow Shock > due to numbers or something like that ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:46:17 ] TheBlueFox > that's none of his business... ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:46:44 ] Shadow Shock > but dont quote me, its only what ive heard ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:46:58 ] TheBlueFox > all i know is that wiseoak's side of the story is what trip has said isn't true ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:47:17 ] TheBlueFox > i don't like people lying to make me look bad ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:47:23 ] TheBlueFox > or the corp ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:47:25 ] Shadow Shock > i dont know, u mind if i invite him ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:47:40 ] TheBlueFox > go for it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:49:33 ] Shadow Shock > ill let you ask trip ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:50:22 ] MCTripline > sup ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:51:11 ] TheBlueFox > right, so, i had a chat with wiseoak and they relayed to me things that you had talked to them about which weren't exactly true and that made me and the corp look bad ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:51:32 ] MCTripline > what did i say ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:52:08 ] TheBlueFox > they said that you had been unsuccessfully trying to get ahold of me for quite some time and that we were behind on sov bills ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:52:33 ] MCTripline > i never said you were behind #1 ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:52:44 ] TheBlueFox > only relaying what they said ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:52:51 ] MCTripline > # i said we as in a corp meaning shadow tryed ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:53:05 ] TheBlueFox > shadow has been in contact with me ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:53:12 ] TheBlueFox > i've never ignored him ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:53:29 ] Shadow Shock > i did try to get with you for about a week before i spoke with you ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:53:41 ] Shadow Shock > you seemed to be afk ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:53:52 ] MCTripline > another thing ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:53:57 ] TheBlueFox > i leave my client open when my computer is on ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:53:59 ] Shadow Shock > even saintsin tried to get you for me ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:54:04 ] TheBlueFox > whether i'm here or not... ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:54:10 ] MCTripline > i told wise is your are always afk with your afk icon in ts ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:54:58 ] TheBlueFox > i think recently i've talked with them more than you lot have...i'm in the public channel a whole lot ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:55:10 ] TheBlueFox > me muting sounds doesn't necessarily mean i'm afk ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:55:33 ] MCTripline > i talk with wise everyday twice a day sometime im gonna be part of irc industrial command lol ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:56:03 ] MCTripline > and lets be honest ive been here 9 months talking to theese guys and well you havent lol ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:56:26 ] TheBlueFox > never see either of you two in the public channel, but all that is irrelevant... ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:56:57 ] MCTripline > dude youve been active for like 3 days man are you kiddibng me ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:57:18 ] MCTripline > ive been around perum dam near 2 years and thought you were shadows alt ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:57:29 ] TheBlueFox > my activity levels are relevant how? ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:57:36 ] MCTripline > and as far as dramius again i thought he was shadows alt ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:58:00 ] TheBlueFox > the problem at hand has to do with CBY and the drama surrounding it...nothing more ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:58:01 ] MCTripline > my conersations with wose are relevant how?? ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:58:26 ] MCTripline > wise srry ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:58:36 ] TheBlueFox > my corp members were told to leave when rent is up to date ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:58:48 ] MCTripline > as of today its up ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:58:57 ] TheBlueFox > then why were they told to leave? ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:59:12 ] TheBlueFox > rent is due today...means i technically have until 23:59 to pay it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:59:45 ] MCTripline > well i was told by wise it was my decision to make about cby and you guys and i made it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 04:59:59 ] MCTripline > my corp in a whole doesnt want to share it any more ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:00:18 ] TheBlueFox > then why have i been reminded constantly about rent and paying it? ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:00:21 ] MCTripline > cby has always been considered OWG space and perum shared it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:00:45 ] MCTripline > because we didnt want to have to wait till the day its due we pay ahead of time ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:01:18 ] TheBlueFox > then why didn't you set an earlier deadline for payment? ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:01:56 ] MCTripline > dude again shadowed hasnt been trying to get a hold of you for lets just say 2 weeks ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:02:56 ] TheBlueFox > shadow has been in contact with me for the past 2 weeks ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:03:03 ] TheBlueFox > we spoke on the 19th and the 27th ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:03:08 ] MCTripline > ok ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:03:30 ] TheBlueFox > on the 19th i stated my intentions with the system and they told me the terms ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:03:42 ] MCTripline > so if you wanted to stay as a sharing corp why not just pay it then ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:03:47 ] TheBlueFox > on the 27th i was reminded that rent is due on the 1st ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:04:07 ] TheBlueFox > that's kinda my point...i planned on paying it today ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:04:13 ] TheBlueFox > i've been gone for the past 7 hours ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:04:44 ] TheBlueFox > i told shadow on the 27th that i hadn't forgotten about it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:04:47 ] Shadow Shock > the only thing i can remember you telling me on the 19th was that you were "thinking of putting up a pos" never that you did want to share the system ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:05:25 ] TheBlueFox > i said that we didn't plan on going anywhere...aka staying ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:05:44 ] TheBlueFox > think i would have told you on the 27th that i didn't plan on paying if that was my intention...would be silly to lead you on like that ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:05:51 ] Shadow Shock > hmm i thought you were talking about the alliance, ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:06:06 ] TheBlueFox > nope ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:06:19 ] TheBlueFox > i said that i planned on putting a tower up, but that i wouldn't until rent was paid up ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:06:22 ] Shadow Shock > been led to believe things from you and dram before :P ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:06:35 ] TheBlueFox > which you then said that it was current until the end of the month ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:06:50 ] Shadow Shock > i did tell you that ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:07:30 ] MCTripline > let me say this ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:08:40 ] MCTripline > im in charge not shadow not anyone if you planned on staying you should have been dealing with me and me only you know im the ceo and should of had constant contact with me just like shadow did when he was running perum ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:09:21 ] MCTripline > thats how it works man im not chasing you shadow infact wanted me to give you a chance so i told him to go ahead and deal with it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:09:27 ] TheBlueFox > if you wanted communication go to through you, then why was he contacting me and not you? ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:09:44 ] TheBlueFox > each time it was him contacting me, not the other way around ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:10:01 ] Shadow Shock > i was trying to give you a chance ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:10:13 ] MCTripline > i dont contact people lol ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:10:38 ] MCTripline > if i was in your shoes i would have been all over you trying to make a deal and work this out ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:10:52 ] MCTripline > thats what a ceo does ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:11:03 ] MCTripline > again im not in that position ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:11:08 ] TheBlueFox > which begs the question why you told wiseoak or at least were reported to have that you could not contact me successfully...if you don't ever contact people, then it obviously wouldn't be possible to contact me either ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:11:25 ] TheBlueFox > i was in contact with shadow and i had worked out a deal with him ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:11:29 ] MCTripline > agan i said we as a corp ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:11:40 ] MCTripline > never said i ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:11:44 ] MCTripline > personaly ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:11:50 ] MCTripline > WE ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:12:16 ] MCTripline > i said when im on your always afk in your afk channel im not going to chase after you man ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:12:24 ] Shadow Shock > and honestly fox, when you told me "I KNOW" about the rent, i felt like you were blowing me off, ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:12:53 ] TheBlueFox > i said that i hadn't forgotten ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:13:11 ] MCTripline > why not just pay it then im confused ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:13:12 ] TheBlueFox > and just because you aren't active at the same time i am doesn't stop you from sending a mail to me ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:13:21 ] TheBlueFox > that's the thing ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:13:22 ] MCTripline > so we can pay ahead of time like we always did ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:13:24 ] TheBlueFox > i planned on paying it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:13:37 ] TheBlueFox > you guys seemed to have just jumped the gun ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:13:52 ] TheBlueFox > i've been gone from my house for the past 7 hours like i said ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:15:11 ] Shadow Shock > fox, can i make a suggestion ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:15:34 ] TheBlueFox > go for it ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:15:45 ] Shadow Shock > for 159 mil every two weeks you can rent vaf system and have the whole thing for perum ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:16:03 ] Shadow Shock > vaf1-p ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:16:20 ] Shadow Shock > has 15 belts, ihub and a ice belt ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:16:40 ] TheBlueFox > cby is better positioned strategically...that and etxt-f ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:20:29 ] Shadow Shock > well i tried to help ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:20:47 ] MCTripline > why are we typing is this a nother communication failure ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:20:47 ] TheBlueFox > not blaming you for anything...just a communication issue ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:22:33 ] Shadow Shock > well perhaps if you work something out with wiseoak, let me know how things go, gotta get some sleep here ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:22:59 ] TheBlueFox > alright...don't think all of it goes through them though ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:23:24 ] TheBlueFox > can't go through them as a proxy and ignore you guys ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:27:49 ] MCTripline > you do relize this is the first time we have ever spoken and again you should have contacted me first and worked this out thats how it works ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:28:44 ] TheBlueFox > how was i to know?...i was in contact with shadow and it seemed like an amicable way of handling things ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:29:05 ] TheBlueFox > had you wanted to be the one to go through, you should have told me ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:29:30 ] MCTripline > if this had been a problem for my corp i would have contacted you well dranius right away i wouldnt have waited till now ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:29:40 ] TheBlueFox > as far as i knew, everything had been worked out and when things apparently became a problem a few hours ago, you did not try to contact me at all ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:30:03 ] TheBlueFox > there wasn't a problem until you guys jumped the gun 3 hours ago about payment ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:30:33 ] MCTripline > i didnt try to contabt you no i would have tryed to contact the ceo if i felt i had to contact anyone man' ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:31:00 ] MCTripline > thats how i see it the ceos should be dicussin this right or wrong ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:31:22 ] TheBlueFox > maybe that's how you run your corp, but it's not a universal view ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:32:08 ] MCTripline > i run my corp like your ceo should run his ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:32:27 ] TheBlueFox > hah, no...we run things the way we wish to run them ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:32:37 ] MCTripline > i see lol ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:32:56 ] MCTripline > you have been running nothing the guy thats been running your corp is here with me ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:33:09 ] MCTripline > right?? ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:33:28 ] TheBlueFox > then that alone should exemplify that the ceo is not necessarily the contact point within the corporation...for the time being i'm the one ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:34:51 ] MCTripline > well in my corp the ceo is boss thats the way i run it srry and everyone in this entire region (other ceos) contact me when theres a issue just like i contact them when i have an issue to work out ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:35:21 ] Shadow Shock > well gn guys, gotta sleep, fox, you really should look at that vaf1-p system. ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:35:47 ] TheBlueFox > well, then shadow shouldn't have been a proxy then...he was my contact and i was never made aware that relaying communication through him was an issue for you ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:36:00 ] TheBlueFox > i can't be expected to guess at your expectations and wants ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:36:03 ] TheBlueFox > goodnight ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:36:25 ] MCTripline > no you shouldnt guess you should contact me thats all ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:37:15 ] TheBlueFox > but that's an expection that i was only just made aware of...the ceo being the sole contact point isn't some rule within this game...its how you run your corp and doesn't necessarily reflect the views of anyone else ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:43:39 ] MCTripline > srry man have to sleep like 230 am here have to get up in like 4 hours so bed is calling wish this was handled differently but unfortunitly like i said i would of delt with you personaly if i felt i need to contact you unfornyunitly i didnt ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:44:09 ] MCTripline > feel i needed to contact you on thiis you should have contacted me thats what i believe ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:44:41 ] TheBlueFox > like i said, shadow was my contact and no one told me your preferences on having me go through you instead ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:45:16 ] TheBlueFox > had you sent dram a mail (since you like to contact CEOs), he would have relayed the message to me, but i don't think you have ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:45:35 ] MCTripline > i see your pont but even if your directors came to me with this i would have contacted dran=mius that way i know the answers i get come from the top no confussion ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:45:35 ] TheBlueFox > anyway, goodnight...RL comes before games, so get some sleep ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:45:46 ] MCTripline > o/ have a good night ÿþ[ 2011.07.01 05:45:54 ] TheBlueFox > /emote waves