[02:52:06] Takhion > make sure you read you ceo / dir mailing list mail guys
[02:52:08] Takhion > pretty important
[02:53:14] TheBlueFox > i tried getting on it, but it wouldn't let me...mind adding me?
[02:53:25] TheBlueFox > unless you meant the forums
[03:12:42] Robbbin Hood > http://intrepidcrossing.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1783
[03:31:56] wiseoak > TheBlueFox You are not the CEO of record for your corp
[03:32:37] TheBlueFox > takhion said it was a ceo/director mailing list
[03:32:54] wiseoak > nope.... CEO's only
[03:33:06] TheBlueFox > and i essentially am...do i need to have my CEO log on and tell you that all correspondence should go to me?
[03:33:11] wiseoak > this channel is for CEO's and Directors
[03:33:27] TheBlueFox > and that they can be removed until they take back over
[03:33:30] wiseoak > truthfully..... you need to have an active CEO
[03:33:46] TheBlueFox > and that's me...CEO is just a title...as long as the duties are fulfilled, that's all that matters
[03:40:06] wiseoak > then imo you should be made the CEO - but that is an internal corp decision
[03:40:36] TheBlueFox > our CEO does not wish to relinquish his title and risk being booted after 6 years in the corp...i don't blame him
[03:40:54] wiseoak > we have several instances of largely afk CEO and this is a problem
[03:40:56] TheBlueFox > i'm not aware of anything he can do that i can't apart from things like creating shares
[03:41:21] TheBlueFox > well, you know i'm very active and that i represent my corp for the time being
[03:41:40] TheBlueFox > our CEO still logs on regularly, but cannot committ much time to the game
[03:45:15] wiseoak > that is a problem
[03:45:33] TheBlueFox > real life > EVE...that will never change
[03:45:59] TheBlueFox > if someone is doing the job, the person doing it doesn't matter
[03:46:28] wiseoak > If someone is doing the job... they should have the position. period.
[03:47:16] TheBlueFox > figureheads are commonplace...this is no different
[03:47:31] TheBlueFox > i'm no less capable than them...i don't see the issue
[03:51:06] wiseoak > I cannot judge your capability vs Dramius... but what I can see is that you are active in the game and he is not... yet he IS the CEO and we rely the FULL POWERS of the CEO - there are some important things that the CEO can do re: Directors
[03:52:08] TheBlueFox > how is being able to grant director roles relevant?...that's a corp decision that doesn't affect the alliance
[03:52:39] wiseoak > it is not only the ability to grant DIR roles... but he ability to take them away too
[03:53:06] wiseoak > if there is a rogue Director... only the CEO can deal with it
[03:53:22] wiseoak > or... we kick the Corp of course
[03:53:22] ObiGYN Kenobi > rogue meaning me. muahahahaha
[03:53:35] wiseoak > yes... exactly.. :)
[03:54:38] TheBlueFox > we have 1 other director apart from me...and i have regular correspondece with them outside of the game; should anything arise, i can get them on faster than you could summon them
[03:55:15] TheBlueFox > but that's still a corporate problem...a rogue member is just as capable as a CEO
[03:55:41] TheBlueFox > any losses accrued would be on a corporate level as aweco controls the ihubs/tcus
[03:58:18] TheBlueFox > err, sorry, as capable as a director
[04:00:52] wiseoak > well.... all I can suggest is that you "regularly communicate" with Dramius and perhaps ask him to forward any CEO mails to you - if that is what he wants.
[04:04:42] TheBlueFox > i don't see the difficulty in having me put on the mailing list and him removed until he decides to resume his role on a full time basis...i can have him send you a mail with just this to show you that it isn't my intention to just commandeer his role
[04:07:15] wiseoak > If I recieve that mail, I will consider it
[04:08:32] TheBlueFox > alright, i will tell him to mail it to you
[04:09:28] wiseoak > but again... in my opinion this is an example of weak leadership and is a concern
[04:10:13] TheBlueFox > it's just how we run our corporation...it works for us and might not for others